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Some identifying marks on the inside cover, but this is minimal. Had Carberry held on to a simple chance the big first innings score might not have eventuated. Watson , Smith and Rogers need to make runs. Cannot expect Clarke, Warner and Haddin to continuously produce. Whats good to see is that this Australian team has plans, purpose, discipline and guy called Lehmann who possibly doesn't sit on his laptop at 10 pm correcting homework assignments.
The Poms are definitely down, but not yet out. If Anderson and Broad fire in Perth, they will be difficult to play, swing and the ball going away off the seam. However, if Johnston can maintain his form he will be lethal. The series is far from over, and a decisive win to England will help, but I'd much rather be batting fro Australia than England in Perth. Whatever happens I just hope the Australians don't commit that most heinous of sins, reading your own hype in the newspaper.
The job ain't done yet. A great two wins for Australia so far this series, but the umpires need to seriously step up as far as controlling the emotions and interactions on the field are concerned. And it's not just the sledging, the spell of intimidatory bowling to Panesar was also ugly but as long as the umpires allow it, it's hard to blame the bowlers for doing it. Not that Panesar complained; I think he was happier when they were bowling at his head than on his stumps. All the princesses should look the other way or something when the boys are having a bit of a spit.
Personally, I'm waiting for some bright spark to sell subscriptions to "Uncut Stump Mike" Bring it on! I'd pay for that. Also, there can be no rules in sledging, no grey areas, you can either sledge or you can't. Nothing off limits or ban it all together. Otherwise it becomes subjective as to what is acceptable or not. The whole point of it is to put the opposition off their game and it has no effect on the mentally strong. Any physical contact is not sledging. Broad and Anderson are known sinners in the sledging area, and the Aussies owe them a bit of stick.
Don't feel sorry for them, but be prepared for them to rub it in if they get the upper hand. The Poms got the "Rub of the green" during the last Ashes series in England. So too, their crowds were happy to rub our Aussie noses in the dirt and lambaste, boo and ridicule Warner, Clarke and Co. Now the tables have turned! I hope CA have him wrapped up in a lucrative water tight deal, like the term of his natural life - he brings a quiet calm and focus that we've not seen in the Aussie camp since the days of Steven Waugh. Credit to Michael Clarke - he is proving to be an aggressive, ruthless and efficient captain in the style of Ian Chappell.
Go Aussies. Sorry for a little correction here, Steve Waugh never coached the Australian side. He was captain from to , probably one of our best ever. The "quiet calm and focus" came from elsewhere. A quietly spoken, technically brilliant Queenslander by the name of John Buchanan coached the Australian side from to Although Shane Warne believes that he alone is responsible for Australia's stellar success during that period, there is no denying Buchanan's record.
Sorry Warney, but Australia's success was no happy accident. Boof is off to a good start but he has a long way to go to match Buchanan's record as a coach. Hi Erik.. I can't remember saying Steve Waugh was coach On field success came for Waugh and his men from a range of sources including the raw talent of Gilchrist, Langer, Hayden, Warne, McGrath and Co - but the quiet, deliberate, determined calm that so epitomized "what has become known as the "Golden era" was in large part the result of the Steve Waugh persona.
When it's all said and done, on field leadership is crucial to the success of the Australian cricket team and Steve Waugh still ranks as our most successful captain of the modern era. Boof has made better than a "Good" start I did read your post ummagumma and I don't want to get into a blue with another true lover of the game, but Clearly there is no lack of talent in the current Australian team either, they have just demolished an English outfit bristling with stars twice in a row.
There is no doubt that Boof is bringing out the best in them, he is the best thing that has happened to Australian cricket in five years. Success through hard work not homework. I love that he has rekindled the Aussie spirit of old. Let's hope they can carry it through for the remainder of the series. I am really looking forward to Perth. However, when making comparisons to teams from past eras you need to compare captains to captains, coaches to coaches, openers to openers. Boof needs to be compared to John Buchanan to measure his success as a coach. Buchanan is the high water mark of the modern era when it comes to results, whether Warnie likes it or not.
Cmon, Buchanan was a bean counter. I could have coached that team to success, when the legends of the game called time, Buchanan got found out Part of the reason for Australian crickets demise was the lack of a captain, Ponting went from a class player who everyone expected to have his name up there next to Tendulkars to just another very good batsman. His captaincy was no better than many pub cricketers, he should have stood down in when he lost the Ashes after we held them for 17 years, he should have been sacked as skipper.
I have no doubt had he done this he would have been every bit as good as Tendulkar, he had all the shots. His decision to field after winning the toss in the second test in after the team smashed the Poms in the first test and McGrath had just been ruled out for tripping on a ball in the warm up still haunts me to this day.
Had he won the toss, batted and consolidated the Australian teams position we may well have won the series and Ashes history would have been so different. But he was too arrogant or ignorant.
Thank god Clarke didn't do something similar in Adelaide. In cricket you just can't underestimate the value of a true captain and the effect on the rest of the team. John Buchanan ran out of beans counting the number of matches he won as a coach, with Australia and many other sides. Warnie and his fellow travellers never liked him because he knew how to use a spreadsheet, while Warnie struggled with text messages. In when England smashed us You can sledge him all you want but all he has to do is point to the scoreboard. Ol China, i have to agree with you.
Ricky was too defensive and conservative and after the great captaincy of Waugh and Taylor he was a real let down. One of the finest batters you'll see, but no captain. And don't worry, i think that decision to bowl haunts him more than anyone. The "golden era" started at the end of Alan Border's reign and continued with Mark Taylor, one of our best ever captains.
Steve Waugh continued the tradition, but his capabilities as captain were masked by the fact that he had a great team and all he had to do was to let them do their job. I doubt if he had the captaincy talent required to be inspirational, rather than just supportive, but at least he continued the run of success started by Border and Taylor. One thing I did notice about the previous ashes series in England when Australia was in it, getting back, or on top, it rained. Glad to see the rain has not a been a major factor this series.
Perhaps the Barmy army are wasting a good oppurtunity to check out our sun and beaches whilst here before going back to the english weather rather than obsessing about the cricket. Which just proves the old chestnut that "God is an Englishman" Chris. I'm loving this series, seems we have a team now which may well live up to the great tradition of the past. I doubt if England will arrive at the WACA with any sense of confidence, they are being soundly beaten in every area of the game.
Catherine after the Lords test - you said the same thing Australia was in a disastrous position and it was only going to get worse. Now its the reverse England facing a Dunkirk moment I mean really - which way you can't have both opinions can you? By your account both teams are about to become occupied territories or an all conquering Boer militia.
That is a fair point. The matches are five months apart and the deficiencies in the Australian set up have been addressed to an extent especially the return of Johnson who is in amazing form. But I am happy to concede that I overestimated England and underestimated Australia coming into this series. But I do trust that I did concede that on this site after Brisbane. Thanks for the comment thug-quite fair. Most Australians do not condone thuggery, as Chapel said in the commentary box on the issue.
Its embarrassing to most of us Don't believe everything Shane Warne says about Australia, and Australians.
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Clarke would do well do do the same, and lead by example. Just get on with it and play the game. The Barmy Army say in one of their songs that we can't sing. Well we can play cricket and the Barmy Army are still singing the same boring tunes from 10 years ago. Time to move on Army As I'm sure everyone knows, the chant "Aussie Aussie Aussie' is a copy of the 'Ogi Ogi Ogi' chant made popular in the UK in the late 70's by the Welsh comic Max Boyce, and which is itself a copy of the same chant popular in Cornwall in the late 's.
It is a copy of a copy of a copy and deemed so 'naff' in the UK by the 's that it was used in The Office by Gareth for comedic effect to demonstrate how dated his social position and thought processes were. I suggest that accusations of being boring and out of date is best not used as the basis of criticism of the BA by the average Australian Cricket fan.
Not really Nick. You, like all fools, make the assumption that us Aussie cricket fans supported the Oy Oy Oy chant. I didn't. I go to the cricket for the cricket, not a bunch of mindless Neanderthals that think their singing is enjoyable. Sounds like you have joined the rabble Nick. And no matter what they sing, it's a pleasant change from those awful years when the thugs were the only fans who came out here and the SCG was a bloodbath during and after the game.
The BA have brought fun and good humour to the game and we should give them a cheer for that. I'll always remember sitting near the Barmies in in Sydney when one particularly pickled Aussie fan got up and yelled some almost unintelligible sledge at a pommy fielder.
A Barmy Army member returned fire with: " Sir Great stuff!! However it's not over until "that" lady sings! I am more pleased because my 92yo mum who has very poor vision listens to every ball on her radio and is giving her much joy. So go the aussies Saw the draw for the Socceroos for world cup Looking forward to that and of course our aerial skiiers at the winter olympics.
I want to see Australia win with no need to apologise to anybody so stop the sledging. Don't be complacent. The Australian side is still capable of performing batting collapses and there are good batsmen in the English side. One more thing, Darren Lehmann hope I spelt that correctly seems to have had a positive effect and melded the team into a cohesive unit. So glad to see him getting a second wind as his test career was marred by too many OTHER great players getting in the way!!
He could have achieved so much more himself given the opportunity. I ponder whether the change of coach has been a major influence on the Australian team or if some other factors have been in play e. As an Englishman living abroad in this wonderful land of Oz I can only despair at our battling and bowling failures and must accept at this moment the obvious conclusion.
The Ashes will be urned by a thoroughly good cricket side called Australia unless by a miracle it rains for the last 3 tests or some turn around in performance occurs. Mitchell Johnson has come of age and the depth of the Australian batting and bowling is seriously long and talented. England and the Barmy Army must now sing a song of support and hope for future Ashes series that we all know will come. But please let us all remember that the success cycle is always followed by the failure cycle and what you say and do can and will come back to haunt you.
Good luck lads!
Four critical dropped catches caused the latest defeat. If they had been held, Australia would not have made in their first innings. There is nothing wrong with the England bowling. Their second innings score was very good. Don't get too cocky.
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You cannot look back and justify any game with coulda, shoulda, woulda. Darren Lehman spent the English summer working on his team and they showed some glimses of their potential. Australia, sure would of like to have won games in England but it was the home series they were preparing for. I don't think there is any cockyness there just raw detirmination to win games. The best fielding side will usually win and when a team gets the yips they drop catches.
Whenever a side is in the horrors, you can bet their fielding is rubbish. That's where you build a quality side and your stars can star. If it rains for the last three tests then you won't be winning. An extremely odd comment. It's just your turn to loose Bros. As for the Barmy Army, as much as I hate, but respect, them all; their passion and support is wonderful. Your suggestion that they "must now sing a song of support and hope for future Ashes series" belittles the fact that they are here for you now. Live in the moment, as those who support you do. We are educated in Australia. Glad you are enjoying our fine country.
Didn't say 'highly' educated? Just educated. I might add, not stupid also. Perhaps best its time you realise what a tiny little island in the world you really come from. And royals with wooden sailing boats no longer rule the world. Sign the papers and we will. Barmy Army. If Mitchell Starc and others had been fit Johnson would be kicking his heels now. So not a great selection more like last man standing, sometimes the luck goes with you Its been my view for many years now that the toss plays far to important of role in deciding test series and this silly tradition must be done away with.
We have seen once again in this current series that the team that wins the toss is always at a distinct advantage in having the choice of batting or bowling. England and Australia are pretty much on par in ability and squad stength and as in this series the toss of coin quite often ultimately decides who wins. If its a five-test series then let both teams have two first choices and maybe throw a coin for the final test. Patrick-you would enjoy Ed Smith's book luck about the role of the toss and chance depute all the hours of practice and attempts risk manage cricket.
It is a great read with relevance beyond cricket. Yeah, they are pretty much on par. Apart from Mitch. Just as they were pretty much on par in the last series apart from Bell. Neither of these matches has been much affected by the toss. England lost each of them in their first innings, batting second, when batting conditions at Brisbane and Adelaide are at their best. At Adelaide they batted better on the fourth day than they did on the third. I think you need to save your hobbyhorse till it applies. Agree Patrick! The true measure of a quality side is the ability to win batting 2nd.. This is what makes the current South Africans so good for such a long time now..
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They back their team to win no matter what circumstance is presented, and have a great track record of winning batting 2nd or at least defy odds to ensure they do not loose matches they even seem destined to loose.. Take the Adelaide test last year.. This English side laid claim to challenge South Africa as the 1 Test team, but their success has only been as first innings bullies, and Aust have shown in recent years that they crumble under pressure in 2nd innings and batting last It is one thing to win the toss..
Cate, thanks for the info I will take a look at that one. And remember, tossing coins for fun or profit should be totally confined to Anzac Day!. Thanks Catherine. My wife asked me for an summary explanation of this test series. I directed her to your article. I can't help but notice that the outbreak of incivility on the field coincides with the election of Abbott. Where the leader leads the nation must follow.
I can't help but notice this outbreak of incivility coincides with an Ashes series. It's almost as though there is a long history of intense rivalry and competition between these two cricketing nations. But no, silly me, it's Abbott's fault. Get a life Sledging takes place right throughout cricket and in every country by every team. Are you referring to Broad and Anderson?
Well known sledgers in the cricket world. No victory all right. Once again the Australian public and yourself completely fail to miss the point of the Barmy Army and what it means to be a 'supporter' rather than a 'fan'. There is a reason that the Barmy Army grew out of one of the worst and extended periods in English Test Cricket. We were rubbish and we knew we were. Did that stop the singing, the flying out to distant lands to see the latest woeful performance and abject failure year after year. Its sheer stupidity but it is based on a wonderful and unwavering love for the team no matter how bad it gets and its been far worse than this.
Losing only makes it sharper. So they sing whilst the Australians sit on their hands and stay to the last whilst the Australian 'fans' scuttle off to beat the rush. The Army may indeed not face reality, but that's not the point and never has been.
I know which approach provides the greatest satisfaction when the wins do come and the greatest solace when they don't. Hear, hear! I hate fair weather "fans". If you love your team, you will follow them through thick and thin. I love the Barmies, they add so much atmosphere to the grond, like the Windies supporters. I just wish we Aussies had more than "Oi Oi Oi". I hope you have some fun at the "grond", you deserve it.
The Barmy Army has destroyed my pleasure of Ashes Cricket by dominating the airwaves with their boring repetitive tunes. Footnote on matters other than cricket: the original lyric to 'The Sloop John B. It includes the familiar wail "I want to go home. The Poms had to hold Adelaide at least to a draw and then look to Sydney and Melbourne. It's very hard to fancy their chances now.
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This listing closed and did not sell. Ask the seller to relist this item or offer at a fixed price Browse Non-fiction. Listing : Hamilton, Waikato, NZ. View Count: 9. New item Ping Add this item to Cart for a combined free shipping deal. Three days later, only 12, remain - and it's just the Barmy Army, celebrating as England retain the Ashes. They run through their full repertoire of songs, cheering on England's success. Meanwhile, the England players salute those who have made the effort to be there, spending thousands of pounds to support their side, inspiring them to another great victory.
What was it like to be there? How did it come to pass that thousands gathered together? Who is the trumpeter? Who came up with the songs?